If you’re a women in spiritual leadership…

I’ve been a woman in spiritual leadership for nearly 25 years. I’ve often been the only woman in the room. Most of my bosses have been men. The gender gap in spiritual spaces still exists. So what are we to do about it?

In this podcast episode, my friend and I talk about…

  • how men and women can work well together in partnership

  • safeguards I have in my own 20+ year marriage without needing to operate in the Billy Graham Rule

  • how churches that have been empowering women might actually not be as empowering as they have thought

  • steps for churches to deal with the empowerment gap

  • why investing in female leaders is worth it

… and so much more.

I don’t hold back one bit! This is an episode to give you hope, share with your male bosses, and challenge you in your next step as a leader—male or female.


Our coaching groups exist for the reasons we talk about in this episode.

If you’re a boss and want coaching for your female staff, check out our group packages.

If you’re a woman and curious about our coaching, check out our coaching groups.

If you want to connect more, send me a message.